On this episode, our hosts are joined by Matthew Barzun, an American businessman, diplomat, and longtime political fundraiser. Sarah and David dive into his paradigm-shifting book, The Power of Giving Away Power, and what it teaches about leadership. Along the way, they also discuss everything from what Barzun learned during his time fundraising for former president Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign, to the etiquette of bowing to royalty while working as an American ambassador abroad.

Show Notes:

-Matthew Barzun’s book, The Power of Giving Away Power: How the Best Leaders Learn to Let Go

Teddy Roosevelt’s Man in the Arena quote

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