100 Days of War in Ukraine

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine started almost 100 days ago. Our hosts are here to discuss ...

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Russia’s invasion of Ukraine started almost 100 days ago. Our hosts are here to discuss the latest from the war and America’s role. Sarah, Steve, Jonah, and David then turn to the gun debate at home: Will mass shootings in recent weeks produce different political results than past tragedies? Finally they preview next week’s January 6 hearings on Capitol Hill.

Show Notes:

–French Press: “The Tide Is Turning Toward Russia”

–The Dispatch: “​​A Marshall Plan for Ukraine?”

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  1. David S

    David mentions that one of the stats looking at gun violence includes 18 and 19 year olds, which are not children. Okay, fair enough. But if you look at the statistics from the CDC for 2020, and you REMOVE 18 and 19 year olds, the number 1 cause of death is still firearms, followed by vehicles. That was flipped in 2019. I get that you may want to clarify how a particular statistic in a particular study was reached, but it feels very nit-picky when you can make the correction and the point remains.

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    Occam's Razr

    Regarding the situation in Ukraine, we should absolutely be okay with the Ukrainians taking the fight to Russia. If you are always playing defense you are going to lose.

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    Ckirk

    I care a lot about the January 6th committee, because I was assuming it is to bring things to light and to somehow bring convictions to the wrong doers.
    But, actually I hardly know what it is suppose to accomplish.
    As everyone does, I have many responsibilities and it is hard for me to keep up with what is happening. Also, the sheer enormity of the number of words one must read to try and understand what is happening is overwhelming and off putting, soooo...
    I know this is a bit cheesy, but I'd love bullet points on what it is suppose accomplish, what information it has made known so far, and then what new things are learned after the presentation.
    Could that be done?

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    The_Mat_Man

    Sarah, thank you for the Condor Cam link.

    I'm a California native, and I understand the beauty of all non parasitic life; unlike that foul fiend Jonah.

    I chose the California Condor as the subject of a fourth grade report. That summer, I visited the SD Zoo, but the Condors weren't on display that day. In college many years later, I visited the SD Zoo and, yep... the CA Condor display is down for rework. I've since visited another zoo with them al plus Pinnacles National Park, and no California Condors! I figured the better they were doing in the wild, the worse my chances of seeing them.

    Thank you. Now I know what my second monitor is devoted to while at work.

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    Will Roberts

    I think on every podcast David has been on this week he has called out the inaccuracy of the CDC report that says guns are the leading cause of death for children rather than automobiles.

    As David noted the data does include ages up to 19. Which David is correct that 18 and 19 year olds are considered adults in our culture.

    My question is did David look at the stats as to what they would look like if they excluded 18 and 19 year olds? Or is he just assuming the death count would be much lower with 18 and 19 year olds were excluded?

    I agree this might skew the data. But there is a difference between might and does skew the data. I myself could not find in the cited report data only for children 1 to 17 despite looking through the source material. Does David have info I don't have? It is he just assuming? It is not a bad assumption but it is still not a fact without the data. It could be the case that deaths are still high with 18 to 19 year olds excluded. Does David have the data that excludes 18 to 19 year olds or is he just assuming it is so? Because if you assume you often make an ass out of you and me

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      Elianna

      was wondering the same thing - and also was wondering if the automobile deaths number that it is being compared to also included 18 and 19 year olds (which I would assume it did so its therefor at least apples to apples in other words)..assuming its at least apples to apples, if the data without 18 and 19 year olds tells a significantly different story then I think its a little misleading to add the two years just to make the headline work with the word "children" in it, however I'm not sure it really makes the bottom line that much better - more under 20 young people are dying from guns than should be, period.... and it just can't be the case that we just decide that's the way it has to be..at least that's my opinion

      The other part of this data that would be good to know when available is if any of this is due to the change in behavior related to the pandemic specifically (ie more suicides//domestic violence at home + less driving overall), and if so, if it stays that way as things go back to normal visa vie pandemic behavior, or if this data point was more specific to pandemic changes as opposed to gun violence..

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    Will Roberts

    Obviously the most important part of this podcast is the condor. It is indeed condorable

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    Ben Connelly

    To Sarah’s point on gun control cracking down on suicide: if someone wants to kill themselves, they don’t need a gun to do it. That seems like a terrible argument for gun control. Once someone has decided to end their life, not having a gun is only going to make it marginally harder for them. I get that it’s the most effective method. I get that people survive jumping off of the Golden Gate Bridge sometimes. But the way to cut down on suicide isn’t to ban guns: Suicide absolutely is a mental health + rebuilding local communities + strengthening churches and families and other institutions issue. Finally, I believe suicide is wrong. But I also believe that the rights to life and liberty include the liberty to take your own life. I certainly don’t see why a government or “society” should get a say in whether or not you take your own life.

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    Rjosephpaquette

    IMHO. The Jan 6th hearings are more like Benghazi hearings than a 9-11 commission. I don’t blame the Democrats for trying the same play, it worked before. Hillary failed to become president.

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    Denise Cote

    Jonah is the kind of friend I want in real life - he keeps me laughing, this time with the "gut bacteria" comment at the end. Sarah is the perfect straight man for him. I love all of you, and my membership is habds down the best money I've ever spent in my 68 years.

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    Zachary Mccartney

    Sarah is absolutely right about vultures! The treasured passage of scripture that the Lord “Carried [his people] on eagles wings” is actually not eagles wings but vultures.

    I know Sarah still has some PTSD from her high school young life supporting teacher—but in this case the Bible is definitely on her side. (Frankly it probably was in high school as well).

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