War and Lies in Gaza

One man's misinformation is another's truth-telling.

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Sarah, Steve, Chris, and David French discuss the war an Israel as a ground invasion of Gaza seems imminent and Western media spreads disinformation about a deadly blast in a Gaza hospital. The roundtable then turns to the House speaker race, this time giving the topic appropriately-lengthed shrift. Also:

-Illusion of Israel’s invincibility

-Information warfare

-The power of confirmation bias

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    Mesulkanen

    Could you folks do a deep dive into (a) why the Academy has been so indiscriminate in their support the Palestinian interpretation of the Israel/Palestinian conflict, and (b) whether there are connections between the “by any means” pro-Palestinian student groups and nefarious foreign actors?

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  2. Russell J

    When the Congress has the fight which Chris and Steve hope for, I think the fighters have to be willing to address the 800 pound gorilla instead of just annoying Congress members. This would be the probable felon currently working to cut down speaker candidates between court appearances and the hordes of voters still willing to humor him. The debate participants showed us how effective yelling at a cheap imitator was at changing public sentiment.

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  3. Sunilsaha2

    Steve called Biden’s comments here “utter nonsense”. You be the judge: https://youtu.be/_x8h_gNt-Vo?si=Rp4xQpk37Xji2TvN.

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    1. Francislyo

      Thanks, Sunilsaha2 - I was wondering at Steve's put-downs of Biden when asked about Biden's performance this past week. So I watched your link.

      Biden was speaking from the heart (you could see he was connecting with his own pain) about what people need when they're grieving, and wanting to give them some sense of hope. At first he was speaking slowly, as many do when overcome with emotion, but then he moved on and his pace quickened. He quipped in response to a question regarding Jordan's Speakership woes.

      Maybe Steve doesn't understand empathy?

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    Ben Connelly

    David saying “you would see me mowing” put me in mind of the weird Al song…

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  5. Francislyo

    The consensus in the pod was that egregious MAGA behavior over the Speakership has sparked a rebellion of moderate Republicans. David voiced hope in this opportunity to get the House back into the real world after being hijacked into the MAGA-verse.

    It's so much more possible now for moderate Republicans to do the right thing than it was with the impeachment vote after Jan 6th. Then, we needed many who were sure to be primaried (and, yes most of them were) - so there were not many takers. Now we only need ~5 to work with Democrats to overthrow MAGA rule. But they should stop proposing Speakers with a record of hypocritical and hyper-partisan rhetoric and legislative actions concerning impeachment and Jan 6th.

    They need to do the math: if they need almost all Democrats and only a few Republicans, they need to talk with Democrats and settle on a moderate Speaker who understands mutual respect, statesmanship and compromise. This will lead to bipartisan governance, getting things done in a time of divided government.

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  6. Pohl

    Nothing new said about war in Israel here. I skipped the rest. Is the audience for this pod the two illiterate subscribers? Make this more informative, please.

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    Christophe

    Naturally, David French is less worried about pro-Hamas professors at the most prestigious universities in the world and more worried about the "Christian Nationalist" boogiemen nobody's heard of. He's unable to criticize the left without doing a ridiculous whattabout.

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    1. Sunilsaha2

      Left of center moderate here. David has changed my mind to the conservative side more than any other person on the planet. Why? Because he calls out his own side. And that builds trust. Most others just preach to the choir.

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    George.Skinner

    I've got an alternative solution to the lawn mowing issue: no lawn. I live in a big city in the Pacific Northwest, and having a lawn became too much of a hassle to continue. Problem 1: a ban on pesticides and herbicides meant a LOT of manually-intensive weeding and lawn care. Problem 2: increasingly long watering bans in the summer turns the lawn into a stretch of dead brown grass even in what's a fairly wet corner of the continent. Problem 3: chafer beetles. The beetles aren't really a big problem, but their grubs are irresistible to the crows and raccoons who will constantly dig up your lawn searching for them. So, after 10 years and 3 complete replacements of said lawn, we ripped it out during our big house renovation and replaced it with an English-style garden with pond. Now we have problems with raccoons fishing in the pond, but I haven't had to mow a lawn in several years...

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    1. Rawkki54

      My lawn isn't big, but I have to replant it twice a year.

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    Travis M

    Is anyone else thinking we missed out on a David French F bomb when he said Jim Jordan's name towards the end about him being the replacement after Scalise dropped from the race?

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  10. Dhhowell

    In reference to the problems with the MSM reporting of the hospital bombing, has anyone read David Leonhardt NYT column from this morning? He attempts to make excuses for the hospital bombing reporting. To me it’s just CYA, and there was no explanation for the fake photo. His “Bottom Line” is “None of this evidence is definitive. Even U.S. officials, as my colleague Julian Barnes wrote yesterday, say that there is significantly more work to be done to determine what precisely happened.”

    It is really a disappointing column.

    Link to the article: https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20231020&instance_id=105668&nl=the-morning&productCode=NN&regi_id=162992292&segment_id=147835&te=1&uri=nyt%3A%2F%2Fnewsletter%2F1734b5bc-b455-5ac0-bc30-94d0656d00b0&user_id=3f96d60d4d9a9172e00db572f2ab5a58

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