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The Ruminant of Infinity

"The unplannedness of the discovery of letting innovation bloom is really, really important."

Spurred by Robert Kagan’s new book, Rebellion: How Antiliberalism Is Tearing America Apart–Again, and Thursday’s Remnant, Jonah spends the majority of this interminable episode responding to Kagan’s critique of conservatism, from contextualizing William F. Buckley’s role on the right to recounting the left’s history of intellectual anti-liberalism. Also, kudos to the frat bros who saved the American flag.

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Jonah Goldberg is editor-in-chief and co-founder of The Dispatch, based in Washington, D.C. Prior to that, enormous lizards roamed the Earth. More immediately prior to that, Jonah spent two decades at National Review, where he was a senior editor, among other things. He is also a bestselling author, longtime columnist for the Los Angeles Times, commentator for CNN, and a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. When he is not writing the G-File or hosting The Remnant podcast, he finds real joy in family time, attending to his dogs and cat, and blaming Steve Hayes for various things.