Future of Cultivated Meat

David and Sarah are joined by ​​Bruce Friedrich, founder and CEO of the Good Food ...

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David and Sarah are joined by ​​Bruce Friedrich, founder and CEO of the Good Food Institute, to discuss cultivated meat and the next agricultural revolution. What’s the difference between plant-based meat and cultivated meat? What’s the environmental impact of reimagining meat production? If it’s August, it’s our meat episode.

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  1. Brian Loftus, MD

    Such a wide range of comments here on the flagship podcast. For Sarah - the term I think you were looking for is an "early adopter." Meat replacement can be a perfect example why capitalism is better than socialism as long as the government does only reasonable regulation. They are really trying to disrupt the traditional market. Historically, I can only think of the iPhone as a successful high end disruption. Here is hoping that they are successful.

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  2. DrEvil42

    I haven’t checked to see if this has been posted already but the economics of fermentation of animal cells has been worked on for quite some time in the biopharmaceutical industry. The guest glossed over just how costly the “nutrients” that are fed to the cells are. Here is an interesting article that take a closer look at GFI’s analysis.
    https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale/

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  3. Larry

    Two things conspicuously absent from your guest's explanation of cultivated meat production (conspicuously for me anyway) was any mention of power and water requirements. Granted, I'm sure the power and water required for traditional meat production is substantial but I'd be interested to know what the differences are. Also, I'm a little weary of people using the term "market-based" to describe environmental initiatives that are clearly dependent on government intervention in order to foster adoption. You know, like outlawing the sale of combustion-powered vehicles to realize the "market-based" utopia of electric transportation.

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  4. Bill_Woods

    Re Sarah's food pill. Fat is the densest food in terms of calories per gram. A stick of butter has about 800 calories. The minimum daily requirement for an adult is about 1600 calories.
    So ... imagine a pill the size of two sticks of butter.

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    Young Riprock

    I think it’s interesting that the conversation is always about beef. I understand why you start with ground beef because you don’t have the complete beef texture you have to replicate with steak. You get ground beef down, you have my curiosity. You get the steak down, now you have my attention.

    But bacon is the peak of the hill. Once you have bacon replicated, you’ve won the war and the rest is down hill from there. But the meat alternative people never talk about bacon.

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  6. Robert and Kim

    I knew nothing about cultivated meat before this podcast and am now intrigued. I am surprised that David didn't inquire with the guest about the applications to space exploration. If we can cultivate meat, then we can have meat on Mars. :)

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    1. Larry

      Right? He's an Expanse fan. Can't believe that didn't come up.

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    David Burke

    Wow!

    What a great podcast.

    Amazing information. One is optimistic instantly.

    I sent it to the 43 people of my extended family. My niece, graduated 2020 from a New England Liberal Arts College(ahem...)got in on this early and was the source of a lot of the guest’s cites…

    This may be way in the rearview window(if you get my “Twighlight Zone”reference), for a lot of us older folks, but it is the future. Has to be.

    And how much fun to listen to French and Isgur(staying under the Lincicome Exclamation Point allocation…)!

    The duo should certainly do more of these podcasts. As terrific it is to hear what they know twice a week in Legalese, SCOTUS, Courts, this hair to be split, this T to be crossed…it was charming and exciting to hear them interviewing a person that does something absolutely alien to their expertise.

    Plus, they did it so well. Totally engaged. Friendly, “lawyerly thought pattern” questions. Dave and Sarah had a blast and that came clear through the speaker. The guest did as well.

    PS: a Morning Show….oh yeah…a Morning Show. With these two. 🫖☕️🥃

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  8. Kevin H

    David you might enjoy the book The Wizard and the Prophet which explores the two branches of the environmental movement through the lives of two major players. Sounds like you lean towards the Wizard solution where you innovate out of problems.

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    BestUsedCarSales

    I think you guys got a lobbyist to appear on your podcast. I'd love to see folks with a more nuanced position. The fella repeated the exact same or similar talking points repeatedly. He even had a direct call for subsidization of his industry without any pushback from y'all. I think this is a very interesting topic, but I was so aware throughout that you guys had a shill on. Which is fine, but you need at least a shill in the opposite side to pushback, best would be a relatively neutral middle-man.

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  10. Laura

    Sarah and David, thank you for doing this podcast! I thoroughly enjoyed hearing about this space and this person's perspective, even though I disagreed at points.
    We have a huge food production illiteracy problem in our country, and that has a direct impact on the type of legislation that gains support.
    I could never fault anyone for not knowing specific arguments in this area without being a huge hypocrite. I am in my third year as a first generation homesteader, and there is still so much that I never knew that I didn't know The answer to improving literacy in a specific area is to talk about it more. Promoting curiosity and research is best done without shaming. I am just basking in the comments for this episode. Thank you!

    Please do an adjacent topic again someday! As said previously, there are absolutely crossovers to the legal world.

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