Cannato’s Way

This episode goes in The Remnant Hall of Fame for a few reasons: it’s both ...

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This episode goes in The Remnant Hall of Fame for a few reasons: it’s both one of the longest episodes we’ve ever done, with one of the New Yorkiest guests we’ve ever had. Vincent Cannato, professor of history at the University of Massachusetts at Boston, proves his New York credentials not just with stories of mayors from years past, but with the most authentic pronunciation of “Giuliani” you’ll ever hear. Stick around for Jonah and Vin reminiscing about AEI, Irving Kristol, and the least impressive Honda Civic in human history.


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  1. Richard Fulmer

    Professor Cannato’s argument that conservatives need to make their peace with big government and the New Deal may be politically pragmatic in the short term, but it’s hardly workable in the long run. Why will “conservative socialism” work any better than “progressive socialism”? What happens, for example, when there are only three or four workers for every Social Security recipient? At what point do the few people still producing wealth actively or passively revolt?

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    Saied

    Sort of questionably and partially baked ideas for your consideration:
    One: Repeal amendments XXVI (kids should not vote), XXIV ("when the common man discovers he can vote himself money, it is the end of the republic"), XVII (if senators represent the state, then they should be elected/appointed by the state legislature), and significantly modify XVI (I would say you have to pay income tax to vote, but that might be too radical).
    Two: It is time to "break glass in case of emergency", dump the current candidate of the Republican party and nominate Nikki Haley.

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    Adicesa14

    I agree, there is no intellectual basis for ‘Trumpism.’ It is perfectly plausible that any sensible person would oppose Trump. Not only does he have no intellectual basis, his behavior (yes, I agree with the NY politics thesis) is akin to a bad vaudeville act. If there were not some sensible people in government and around Trump, he would be a disaster. Yet, he is better than any Democrat that aspires to the Presidency, or that the Democratic Party could nominate. So, it is perfectly plausible that any sensible person would not oppose Trump!

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    Francesca

    Dear Jonah please dont get obsessed about Reno. It is not worth it. The discussions about integralism are very interesting. But the guests sound embarrassed when you start on about Reno calling you decadent. I dont want to sound like your mom but when you act like this he wins

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    J&A

    My husband and I have a great debates about the pronunciation of word "err". It was much to my dismay to hear that you're on the dark side, Jonah. Great podcast, though!

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      I had a college prof who told me, "to ERRR is to make a mistake, to AIR is to fart." It always stuck with me.

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  6. ROBERT

    Interesting and different in a refreshing way - good to get out of full on COVID and Trump discussions. I also like history so this appealed to me.
    One idea that Professor Cannato alluded to, but did not say explicitly, is that for all of the greatness of classic liberalism and the beneficial outcomes it allows, it also allows for bad outcomes. I got the sense he was expressing concerns about these bad outcomes and perhaps classical liberalism proponents should be open to interventions that address them. Is this anywhere in the realm of what he was actually thinking?
    I've seen some commenters allude to this as well. While I clearly understand where they are coming from and share some of the same concerns, I can't go as far as common good conservatism.
    Can anyone share any thoughts on this? Or was I simply hearing what I wanted to hear?

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    Kev_WDE

    Hey Jonah. Excellent pod today, and I listened to the one with the Okie professor twice.

    This isn’t a half-baked idea, but a guest suggestion. You’re probably aware of this guy, since we share an affinity for elephants.

    Paul Barton is a Brit who lives with his Thai wife (& kids) at an elephant sanctuary in Thailand. He’s a great pianist, as the pachyderms attest.

    https://youtu.be/CUHP_ZsBsro

    He starts playing, their ears start...waggling.

    Sometimes they dance.

    Sometimes, they play.

    https://youtu.be/XC7z8JU5jZU

    Sure, he’s half a world away. Do it at 9 pm your time, 9 am his.

    It’ll be perfect.

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    Rev Snow

    One hundred four minutes?! One point twenty-one gigawatts?! Marty, where in the world are we gonna get that kind of power?!

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    Butch Earl

    You guys should have put a bumper sticker on the Civic that said, "This is paid for" You'd have no trouble attracting the ladies. Every time I went to the beach in my rusting but always running 73 Camaro and parked next to a bunch of new 80s era Trans Ams with much younger, better looking, and more socially adept men than I, as soon as I got out, I would shout, "Mine's FREE AND CLEAR." No problems prying away the ladies.

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  10. Nathan Shiba

    I was very fortunate to have had Irving Kristol as a professor at the Stern School of Business at NYU in the early 80's. I would have been deeply proud and likely moved to tears if he ever would have referred to me as Oriental. I would have worn it as a badge of honor.

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