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Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns on ‘This Will Not Pass’
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Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns on ‘This Will Not Pass’

There is no shortage of stuff to talk about in This Will Not Pass: Trump, ...

There is no shortage of stuff to talk about in This Will Not Pass: Trump, Biden, and the Battle for America’s Future, the new book by New York Times reporters Jonathan Martin and Alex Burns, and Steve does his best to discuss all of it in this week’s Dispatch Podcast. As Steve says, “The book makes you feel like you are in the room.” The trio breaks it all down—from January 6, those now infamous Kevin McCarthy recordings, and the early days of the Biden administration. Burns and Martin respond to McCarthy’s accusation that they took his comments “out of context.” Plus, why does Biden want to “do it all?” Finally, how do the authors deal with critics on the right that immediately write them off because they work for The New York Times?

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