Mere Evangelism

Chris Stirewalt returns to The Remnant for punditry so intense it could rival the summer ...

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Chris Stirewalt returns to The Remnant for punditry so intense it could rival the summer heat of New Orleans. Religious definitions are first on the docket, as Jonah and Chris explore the voting habits of Catholics, whether “Evangelical” is an outdated term, and the relationship between political beliefs and church attendance. Afterward, a deep dive into party politics commences, covering the GOP’s embrace of working-class men, the right’s broader commitment to bogus election fraud narratives, and how the return of radical chic could spark a new class war. Ultimately, only German words are sufficient to express Chris’ horror at our current situation.

Show Notes:

– Trash of the titans

– Chris on dumping “Evangelical”

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  1. Nathaniel Espino

    In addition to what other commentators have said about (Roman) Catholicism, could we also not mix up Evangelicalism and evangelism? At least in the title? Maybe that's nitpicky, but after all the lead subject is terminology...

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    Ben Connelly

    Okay, since Chris brought it up, I want to see him on Joe Rogan to talk about medical advice (but mainly the Moon Landing!). Alternatively, a special Remnant episode bringing back Jack Butler to talk to Chris about the Moon Landing.

    And if Tucker Carlson really said that, my response is twofold.

    1. I’ve read the Bible and it doesn’t say anything about vaccines.

    2. If Tucker is questioning the manhood of anyone who takes the vaccine, haha, I’m happy to go toe to toe with him in the ring for a few rounds and see what he has to say after that.

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  3. Payette

    Good discussion. But the groundwork for it were many editions of the French Press and the Hangover episode featuring an interview with David Glade.

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    Marvel2014.ab

    This was an interesting conversation. Perhaps because I'm stubborn, I still do not want to give up the term evangelical, because I think it describes an important category--though interestingly, I would not define it in the way Chris Stirewalt does (a middle way between fundamentalism and mainline Protestantism). I would define an evangelical as someone who believes in the doctrine of the trinity, salvation by grace alone through faith alone, and the inerrancy of scripture. Stirewalt, presumably, would actually define me as fundamentalist--while I don't think we can know exactly how old the earth is, I think the days of creation in Genesis 1 are literal, and therefore the earth can't be millions of years old. But I reject the term fundamentalist because I associate it with the belief that paedobaptists are heretics, the KJV is the only true Bible, going to the movie theatre is a sin, etc--essentially, very dogmatic separatism. I say this only to illustrate how open to interpretation and hard to nail down these terms really are (which probably bolsters Stirewalt's point). Ultimately, it's what people believe that matters, not the terms we use to describe them, but we do need to communicate categories somehow.

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    Rick Harlan

    Just a small point on the Lutheran use of "Christian" in place "Catholic" in the creeds:
    I remember hearing that "christlich" was already the German translation of Latin "catholicus/a/um" before the Reformation.
    Just to make sure for myself, I went to Google Books to find German and Latin editions of the Book of Concord, both of which were printed in the late 16th century. The B of C is the official doctrinal statement of Lutheran churches and includes the Apostles', Nicene, and Athanasian Creeds. And sure enough, the German edition has "eine heilige Christliche Kirche" / "eine einige Heiliche Christliche Apostolische Kirche" / Ath: "das ist der rechte Christliche Glaube"
    Versus Latin: Apo: "Sanctam Ecclesiam Catholicam" / Nic: "Et unam sanctam Catholicam & Apostolicam Ecclesiam" / Ath: "Haec est fides Catholica".
    Which tells me that when the Lutheran fathers were writing in German, they said Christian, and when writing in Latin, they said C/catholic. Since the majority (at least plurality) of Lutheran churches in America trace their roots back to Germany, most liturgies you'll see translated "Christian" directly from German .
    Hence the weird Lutheran trait of changing Catholic to Christian in the creeds has linguistic origins, not ideological.

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    Kevin C. Smith

    So today’s the day…

    400!

    Last minute predictions?

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  7. Pudge

    You should have a regular listener on for milestone podcast. What worked what didn’t..,,? Someone from nowhere near the bubbles. Hard to plan questions for but perhaps a nice conversation

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      Kevin C. Smith

      Did you just institute a Hunger Games?

      #IVolunteerAsTribute

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  8. Paola

    Ok, ok, ok, Chris finally made me become a member. Love the Podcasts and looking forward to reading more of your content.

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    MarqueG68

    One exchange I yearn to hear at the end of a podcast:

    "Thank you for having me."

    "Well, thank you for being had."

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  10. Dave West

    Re: political versus religion reporters. In 1986 I was press secretary for Pat Robertson as he began campaigning around the country. At that time most larger newspapers had a religion reporter, at least part-time. Early on, some newspapers could not decide which should cover Robertson, so I found myself explaining politics to religion reporters and religion to political reporters. Today there are almost no dedicated religion reporters and few reporters of any kind at newspapers. Alas. And even worse, almost no reporters of any kind who really know or understand religion.

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