Revenge of the Incumbents in Georgia

Erick Erickson, host of the Erick Erickson Show, joins Steve for a conversation about what ...

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Erick Erickson, host of the Erick Erickson Show, joins Steve for a conversation about what we learned from the primary election results in Georgia, and what it all means for November and beyond. Steve is then joined by Khaya Himmelman to discuss her fact check of Dinesh D’Souza’s new documentary film 2,000 Mules.

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    Ben Connelly

    Good to hear from Khaya. Very interesting to learn that 2000 Mules is more clever and harder to fact check than Lindell’s crap. As to that hazard pay comment… maybe time for a salary raise? Also, before I read her fact check, I wondered what election fraud conspiracies had to do with large numbers of horse-donkey crossbreeds…

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    Stephanie

    Good podcast. I was expecting much more trashing of Stacey Abrams. Of course, Erick made some questionable statements about the 2018 election. Kemp was Secretary of State, overseeing his own election, and he definitely stacked the deck in his own favor.

    Kemp actually purged 340,000 voters from the rolls on the grounds that they had moved/were no longer at the same address, where in fact they'd not moved. These voters had no idea they'd not be able to vote.

    The 50,000+ voters Abrams registered in her voting drive had their registrations blocked by Kemp because of very minor discrepancies.

    In what world does a politician get to make the rules for his own election?

    The usual comeback, that she should not have refused to concede, is a valid criticism, but is changing the subject. It doesn't change what KEMP did.

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  3. R. D. Kent

    Just listened to this podcast. Regarding the latter segment regarding "2000 Mules": it seemed like Steve was scolding Khaya for her comment about people being stupid. But I think Steve misunderstood her -- I don't think that she was saying that anyone was actually stupid -- what she was saying is that one of the techniques used in disinformation campaigns (including 2000 Mules) is to imply that a person is stupid if they don't completely understand or accept the storyline being presented.

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    Anne W (Raw5254)

    I really enjoyed this, but mostly I wanted to say how much I appreciate TD. Lots of great writing, and I love the podcasts. You have become my main source of news, so thank you for covering so many areas. And, thank you for pointing to articles and podcasts that offer different views. I’ve learned a lot, and I count on your people to keep me well informed. It’s heartening to see how you’ve attracted such a great group of people at TD, and despite some of the arguing, you definitely have the best comments section anywhere. I’m glad my husband and I became members.

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  5. Yisrael Gale

    Erick claimed that COVID wasn't a big problem in Georgia until it was spread by BLM protests. This is baloney. Steve should have called him on it

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    The Bell Tower

    Great to hear the fact check on Dinesh. Khaya is awesome. I remember watching Loose Change years ago and thinking “Damn, these guys have some solid points.”

    Then I researched the information and they had deceptively edited photos, quotes, data and other details to make their narrative compelling. Suffice it to say, the amount of contempt I have for this sort of propaganda is unfathomable. The Nazis acted in much the same way and it is appalling.

    And extra thanks to Steve and team for sparing us from fact checking opinion, for which I have at least as much contempt.

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  7. Mary Kathleen

    AP is reporting there was no armed security guard present when the shooter walked into the Uvalde school, through an unlocked door: "The school normally has an armed school safety officer. But when Ramos arrived on Tuesday, 'there was not an officer, readily available, armed,' and the gunman entered the building 'unobstructed'..." -- https://apnews.com/article/uvalde-school-shooting-politics-texas-shootings-56a4d01fb1cda19947db89fcb6bd85fd

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    Rjosephpaquette

    I liked the pod cast using a local reporter to supplement Steve’s expertise. Steve knows the right questions to ask—and someone from on the ground there has the answers.

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    Devin H

    I struggle to understand Erick's support for Walker (maybe he was moreso just expressing the general Georgia support) given the glaring issues with the candidate. I understand not wanting Warnock to win, but how can you get excited about someone as unpolished as him while he also has - as touched on - some worrying domestic history? Would have been a good opportunity for Steve to push a little on that. Walker totally avoided debates in the primary campaign and some recent statements have been embarrassingly incoherent.

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      Stephanie

      Erickson should keep mum about Herschel Walker. Sometimes the Republican doesn't deserve to win a seat in Congress.

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  10. Thirsty from Accounting

    Steve, I viewed the 2000 Mules documentary, and in listening to your fact check section, I feel like you didn't rightly explain/understand the main thrust of the doc's "evidence"--to be clear, I do not believe the election was stolen. I also don't believe I should silo myself from what I know will be a large talking point from friends and family who Are suspicious of the 2020 election.

    The geo-location they talked about did not find people going to the *same* ballot box over and over; rather, a circuitous path around the city infringing on the locations of several *different* ballot boxes, along with one or more stops at known... democrat activist locations? (to pick up harvested ballots, one presumes?)
    Thus, when you stress the point that they don't have video of the *same* person visiting the *same* box over and over.. well, that's not the malfeasance the doc is proposing, and may be discrediting to 2020 skeptics who read/listen to the fact check.
    Cheers.

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      Stephanie

      The exact same geolocation information is probably appear if you take any random day of the year, because all you're seeing is the normal movement of people going about their business--visiting stores, the post office, going to work, going out to get a bite to eat.

      But videos like this are narrated in such a way that an uncritical viewer would find the whole argument very convincing.

      In the same way, the same people find Tucker Carlson's arguments about, say the Great Replacement theory convincing--until all the illogical parts are pointed out.

      I think people must be starting out wanting all their prejudices strengthened, in order to not see all the illogic and nonsense.

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    2. Will

      I believe the point is that they don't have video of the *same* person visiting *any* drop box more than once. They have geolocation data that shows the *same* person was *near* multiple ballot boxes, but they don't have surveillance video showing that person actually dropped ballots off at each of those boxes.

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      1. Thirsty from Accounting

        You may be correct that this is what he intended, but that is not what I heard Steve communicate as he was "summing up" the video evidence stuff.
        "The claim is...they have surveillance footage from a dropbox or a couple dropboxes...and it's the case that many of these so called "mules" keep coming back again and again, you would think that they would be in a position to show us those repeat visits from those mules to establish the claim they are making."

        This misunderstanding was also not addressed/corrected by Khaya

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        1. Will

          I don't see any conflict between the quote you provided and my interpretation.

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          1. Thirsty from Accounting

            You correctly summed the point of the documentary, but Steve communicated something different, whether intentional or not.
            He asks, if they have video evidence of a drop box, and they assert the mule visited this dropbox over and over, why can't they show it?
            That's not what they are asserting.

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          2. Thirsty from Accounting

            Because he's saying, "they have video of a few dropboxes, and they assert the same mule is making repeat trips to this same dropbox. Why can't they show it?"
            Because the doc is not positing the mules visited the same dropbox over and over. They have video of a few drop boxes, and would counter that the mule didn't visit the same dropbox twice, and we don't have video of those other 20 dropboxes his data shows he visited.

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    3. Thirsty from Accounting

      Perhaps, though, I was the one who misunderstood you.

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